In this episode, Dima is joined by Sylvain Grande, CPO at PayFit France, a software platform for digitizing all aspects of HR management. Sylvain walks us through his twenty-plus years in product development and management and shares how the essence of successful product development lies in being close to the customer in both B2C and B2B domains. He also shares valuable tips for young and upcoming product leaders and discusses type one and type two decisions PMs take.